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Jay DeMerit interview

Part One

Part Two

Dave Bowler

11/9/06

 

Part One

On his version of "Born In The USA", Springsteen was ten years down the road with nowhere to go, nowhere to run. Jay DeMerit is two years down his road, but he already got to where he wants to be. But there's still a long road stretching out in front of him.

Two countries separated only by a common language. That was the popular view of England and the United States of America. But that's not the half of it. Between us doesn't simply lie the Atlantic Ocean. Attitudes to all sorts of things are completely different, for good and bad, whichever side of the pond you are.

That's never more true than in the approaches we take to games, to sport, to competition. To coin a phrase from the old gangster movies of Edward G. Robinson and Jimmy Cagney, "Foist is foist and second ain't no place".

Perhaps that's too harsh for English tastes where the gallant loser ranks high among our sporting icons. But in the States, there's no such thing as a gallant loser. Just losers. And that attitude brings out a special kind of professionalism in those that play sports at the top level. People like Jay DeMerit, Watford's own American friend.

"Attitude is the biggest thing. I'm new at this game, but my whole life has been competitive sports so I understand what it takes to do well. I've seen kids at all sorts of different sports with so much talent, but they don't have the right attitude and they fall by the wayside. Coming from where I do, it's very difficult for me to understand how people do that, how people let it go.

They don't understand how fortunate they are to be in that position. Why wouldn't they want to do the most, the best, work the hardest they can to stay in that position?

"I think maybe that's an American thing, I think it's maybe drilled into us from an early age as the competitive nation that we are, we're groomed that way. We're taught to do that at a young age, to take things on board, to take criticism. I grew up with coaches in different sports that were very hard on you, very critical, even my parents would do that, but in the right ways, very constructive.

They're only trying to help you. If you can take that on at a young age, you learn how to deal with those things and it's easier to handle when you're in the spotlight. Any piece of criticism is short-term, it's something you're doing now. But if you keep focusing on the bigger picture, on getting better, that only pushes you on. You have to have that mentality here. The season is so long, there are bound to be ups and downs and so you have to keep the right attitude through it all."

There's a healthy dose of realism in what Demerit says, but there's a hint of surprise, maybe irritation too when he reflects back on the people he's met along the way in his English sojourn, a spell that began when he arrived in this country with little more than the clothes he stood up in and a burning desire to play football for a living.

"I guess I roughed it for a year or more here before I got the chance. Playing non-league, I heard so many people in the changing rooms and afterwards saying "I was at Bristol Rovers", "I was at Tottenham", "I was at Coventry". Well, great. But you're not there now!

There were so many players in non-league who could have done a lot better because they had the talent and that was so strange to me. And there'd be talk about his player or that player in the professional game, saying he's no good. Well, maybe. But he's playing at a professional club. He's doing it. You're at a non-league club. Why would you even talk about that?

"It drove me on, to not take it for granted if I ever got to the point of playing professionally. It was another good experience, another thing to remind me that getting here was one thing, but staying here is what matters then. And to not slag people off when you get here, because they must be doing something right to play professional sports.

"It's one thing to get a chance, but it's another to take it. Getting an invitation to come to Watford, that was great, but that wasn't enough. I wasn't coming here just for an experience, so I had to give it everything. Even my first season, a one year contract is a one year trial basically so I took that as a challenge and I've made it work out for me so far.

"My initial trial, every day I came in and made sure I was at it, trying to impress. That was the attitude I needed to push through. It's hard. A lot of times, people come in on trial and don't get a kick, or play 10 minutes at the end of a reserve game, they don't get a fair look in.
The fortunate thing for me was they were short on centre-halves so I got to play a full 90 minutes in the reserves. I got two of them before I played for the first team and it was those games that got me through. I had the chance to showcase what I'd got and they had time to see me. That was the break, getting time to play. Once you get the break, don't screw it up."

We're getting a little ahead of ourselves here of course. We need to ask ourselves just how it is that we've got an American playing for Watford. And not an American that we plucked from the MLS or another club in this country or abroad, but an American that nobody had ever heard of before. How come he's not pitching a baseball or making a touchdown back home in Wisconsin?

"People tend to think that Americans aren't too interested in "soccer", but in fact, it's the most popular sport that kids play, because it's so easy. You only need a ball, no equipment like you do in baseball or American Football. Up until the age where sport starts to become more organised, when you get to High School, everybody plays it. I was no different, just playing in my home town in Green Bay and really enjoyed it. We played mostly in the summer, then in the fall and winter, it'd be basketball, track, so I was an all round athlete really.

"Summer camp is a big thing in the States and a lot of times, kids go there and there are a lot of good sports coaches there. When I was growing up, there was a bunch of Dutch guys who came over in the summer and they'd have a camp called Winning Mood and everybody was so excited because they were from the Netherlands! They could charge extra because of that. But we loved having people coming in from abroad because that's where the tradition is, the talent, they've played at the highest level and we just wanted to learn. I did a couple of good university camps in the mid-west, but that was pretty much all I played growing up.

"Soccer happened to be the sport I was best at, had maybe the best future in, and I got a couple of offers for college scholarships. I took one at the University of Illinois in Chicago because they had the degree I wanted - you don't really dream of being a professional sportsman, you're still years away from that, so you want to get your education right at least!"

Having done that, Jay was ready to get involved in football full time, but back home, nobody was giving him the chance. In the past, Americans hitched up the covered wagons and went west in search of a new frontier. But DeMerit is anything but predictable. He came east.

"I reached a point where I didn't have anything set in stone in the States and I was getting frustrated because I thought I deserved a shot at it. I had an English friend in Chicago, he was going back to England, and suggested I should come with him, so I thought, "Why not? I don't owe anyone here any favours, give it a shot." My thinking was to aim high and if it didn't work out, I could always come home. Once I got here and took in what football is really about over here, experienced the atmosphere, the passion people have for it, I was ready to do anything I had to, to try to achieve it.

"I got a lot of knock backs here, I played non-league football for over a year. When you play at that standard for that long, you do say, "This isn't what I came for!"
I just always knew in the games I played, it was only a matter of time before I got a chance. Sure, you need some luck but you also need to put in the time. I was willing to do that because I had the confidence in myself, that if the break came, I'd take it. Of course you have thoughts about throwing it in especially when I would go back home and see people doing other things, but it also helps when your family and friends support you, tell you to keep doing it. That was the base of it all.

"But once I was here, it was really something I wanted to be a part of. The football and the place it has in things here was the biggest culture shock for me, not the lifestyle. There's not really a big difference between life here and America. As far as day to day activities go, it's very similar. But the football was totally new. I'd never been to a game where I heard people chanting for 90 straight minutes, having people so passionate that they have to sit on opposite sides of the stadium because they won't let them mix. I'd never see anything like that. To have that was amazing to me, channelled at the sport that I play. I'd been to American football games, basketball, you see passionate fans, but to see it for my sport, that was really exciting. That was another drive for me to be a part of it.

"Even though I'd been to other sports, the atmosphere isn't that intense. I guess American football is closest but even that's not on the same level. A part of it is that you just don't get away fans, certainly not in numbers, because the distances are so huge. The competition aspect is big, but opposing fans will sit with each other, there's friendly banter where here, football seems so much more than that. I don't think there's any country in the world like it for football and it was something I wanted to be a part of."
Two years and 80 first team games on, Jay is right at the very heart of it, in the Premier League. It's been a rapid rise and, understandably, it's one where he finds himself challenged on a daily basis.

"Premiership players think faster than players lower down. That's the big difference. It's less physical than the Championship, almost way less, it's the mental aside that counts. Always being switched on. They can pick that pass out in a split second where maybe in the Championship they take an extra touch. Those things take time to develop, but not too much time hopefully!

"It's interesting to be in this league because the way it's treated compared with the Championship is really different. The media are pretty extreme here, you're either brilliant or you're awful. In the states, you wouldn't be allowed to print half the things they print here, there are so many rules, sanctions, laws. Some of it is a little crazy.
All the things that were being written about Wayne Rooney, a few weeks ago, it's like they can't wait to kick him down. But you have to realise it is ridiculous, there's nothing you can do to change that, and you kind of ignore it really, good and bad.

"I do think that people in this country find it harder to take criticism, even when it's constructive. You can see that in the way some people deal with the things that happen, from having things said about you in the media, to being dropped, to being yelled at by another player, there are all sorts of levels of it and handled the right way, it's healthy. Take it on and learn from, don't get uptight about it."

Where does Jay see that attitude taking him? What's the next plan for this American abroad?
"I don't like to make predictions, long-term goals, because you can get trapped by that. I tend to look less far ahead, short-term objectives, then once I achieve those, I take another look.

I want to get better at my job. I've only been professional for two years now, I'm the first to admit I still have a huge mount to learn. Sometimes I don't understand why I'm here because I haven't had time to soak it in, sometimes it seems impossible that I'm here. But that's a good thing because I know I don't have time to sit back and relax, I know careers are short and mine's even shorter because I started later.

"I think the big thing is having the capacity to learn, the right attitude to learning, and then you can only get better. I just want to keep improving, improving, improving. Hopefully that means I'm a success here, the team is a success and you get the things that go with that like joining the national team. That's a natural progression. In a simple way, that's my goal, to get better every day. To come in, learn something else, work hard, go home being a better player after every session we have. That's enough to think about for the moment."

Part Two

The State of the Union

In part one of this interview, Jay DeMerit told us a little about his migration from Wisconsin to Watford. Now, from a distance, Jay looks at just how football in the cradle of the game stacks up against the way it's played Stateside.

One of the difficulties that the young Jay DeMerit faced back in the States was that, with football along way down on the totem pole as far as sporting activities go, finding a way into the game wasn't easy.

Though he had a university scholarship that involved him playing a lot of soccer, there was no easy route from there to club football. Where in England, a promising youngster is snapped up by a club pretty much at the moment of conception these days, than guided through the Academy system, back in America, things are rather more haphazard, a reflection of football's standing perhaps.

"There's no structure to football the way there is here at Watford with the Academy. There are good club teams at youth level, but they're mainly in the big cities. I had to travel to Milwaukee which is two and a half hours away just to get to train if I wanted to play at a good standard. The States is just too big to have a large concentration of good teams. There are some good coaching programs, a lot of very good coaches, but people have to travel and sometimes you just can't do that, particularly as a kid."

We've already discussed the fact that circumstances eventually led to Jay coming to England to try to make his way in the game, a game that is very different not just to football back home, but to the big sports in the States, basketball, American Football and so on. The number of pro clubs fighting it out in the NFL, the NBA or whichever league it is are comparatively small and there's certainly nothing like the 92 club pro structure we have in this country.

What there is more of though is level playing field competition. We've all wrung our hands over the huge discrepancy between the resources available to Liverpool and those that clubs lower down the scale can call upon, the more so since Roman Abramovich rolled up and didn't simply move the goalposts but moved them to another country. The idea of competition within the Premiership is fast receding into historical quaintness. That doesn't happen in the US. Not to the same extent anyway.

In the NFL, that's largely down to the salary cap and to the draft, a mechanism that ensures that the very best players aren't all concentrated in one or two teams, giving the worst team from the previous season the first pick of the best players going into the new one, players being registered with the governing body, not the clubs. Sounds like a decent idea, if only to cut Chelsea off at the knees.

"The draft system is very different to what you have in England and I think it makes the whole competition side of it all a bit more even. If you have Chelsea or Manchester United who can just bring in whoever they want, it's not exactly fair on the little guys. It's obvious, but that's tradition, it's the way things are. And I guess it just makes teams like us or Sheffield United fight all the harder to beat the big guys. But the draft definitely makes things a lot more competitive and even as a whole. Back home, Green Bay Packers is a small team compared with others in the States, but they won the Superbowl. I guess it's more achievable for them to do that than it would be for Watford to win the Premier League because you get a fair pick of the players.

"It brings in other parts of the game too, it's not just about the most talented players. Like here, if Chelsea have the best players in the world, it reduces the other aspects because they usually have too much for the opposition. In the NFL, every team has a share of the most talented players so then a lot more relies on team work, attitude, tactics, coaching, there's more emphasis on that and it makes it interesting. And you have to bring in the best young players through your club to help get that edge because you add them to the eight great players you got through the draft and you can have something special.
Then three years out of school, those guys go to the draft and it starts again. Your scouting has to be good, you have to bring in the right players, you only get so many draft picks so you have to make sure you get the right ones. Draft day is a crazy thing, people making calls, making deals, trading so they can get better picks, it's unbelievable. It's a whole different bag of chips to what goes on in England.

"Saying that, as a player, the say you have in where you're going to end up is basically zero, so American sports could take a lot from us just as we could from them. Here, things are run more like a business instead of a league. Each club is its own individual thing where in the States, they're part of a bigger whole, the NFL is the big thing and the teams are just a part of it."

As has been pointed out many times, Andy Boothroyd is the kind of manager who looks all over for inspiration, including sporting disciplines overseas. Jay can see an American influence in the goings on at Watford.
"There are a lot of specialist coaches at this club which I guess is unusual for teams here, but for me, that's what I'm used to. I've grown up with that in the States and I think it works, I think that different players in different positions need different kinds of coaching. It's even more divided in the States, there's offensive co-ordinators who don't even think about what happens in defence because that's not their job. There are kicking coaches, every kind of coach you can think of and we have some of that here. Each position is different so that makes perfect sense to me."

For all his background, DeMerit has certainly taken to life in this country, living in the capital, another opportunity that he clearly relishes.

"I love living in London, in Camden. It's a great place, it's a good mix for me to have the life in the city and then to work outside it. It's good for my family and friends to be in the centre of it, I can leave them on their own to do whatever they want.
It just seemed a better situation, a better solution for me. Coming from Chicago, another big city, I liked that lifestyle. At my age, that's not something I want to lose. I don't mind the extra little bit of travelling, it's not that big of a distance and it gives a good mix for me."

So England has a claim on Jay for some little while to come. But wouldn't a move back to the MLS boost his chances of playing for the national team?

"I don't think going back to play would help me at all to be honest. I think playing in the Premier League is huge for me. I'm a newcomer to this league, but it's one if the best in the world and if we can stay at this level for a period of time, I think it's going to be the most beneficial for me.
I think it's where I can learn most, improve quickest and where the national coach will take the most notice of me. And anyhow, people back home have started to take notice of me since we got promoted. I've done a few stories, done a piece with "Sports Illustrated" and that's nice, it's good for my chances with the national team, but it comes with the territory now.

"At the moment, MLS isn't a league that can compete with the Premier League, but it is making a lot of ground. It's been a long-term thing in the States. When the NASL started back in the 1970s, the first try at having a soccer league, it was just completely new and it was hard for it to make a real impact because it was starting from scratch.
Thirty years on, there's a bigger market. There's been a World Cup in the States, the national team has done pretty well in some competitions, so there are things to build on. I heard a comparison once about why it doesn't catch on compared with other sports, and it's because we are used to watching the very best in the world.
All the other sports, golf, tennis, track, boxing, basketball, whatever it is, the best players in the world come to America to compete week after week. With football, it's not that way and that's why it doesn't get the following, because we know there are better people playing somewhere else. That's definitely an issue, but it can only be addressed over time, you have to build up to it over time to reach that point.

"The interest is there and with the increasing foreign population in the States, that has to have an impact because the rest of the world is soccer mad. You're getting second generation kids of parents who watched the game religiously back in Europe or in South America and they're creating a swell of interest.

I think it's starting to be time for it to take off. The first four seasons of the MLS, it looked like it might never make it. Now they're in he tenth season, they're getting the best crowds ever, you're getting purpose built stadiums instead of playing in American Football stadiums built for 65,000 people and it dwarfs the crowd. So it's moving forward.

"There's potentially a huge market there, a lot of people enjoy it, tons of kids are playing, it's a big family sport, you go during the day, they're not often night games, it's a day out, it has all the ingredients to be potentially very, very good.
But the MLS has to attract bigger name players, names that mean something, that will raise the standards, so the fans can go and see players who just did a great job in the World Cup.
There's a lot of talk in the press about David Beckham going and doing that and that could be a big step forward. If anyone can do it, he can because already he has a presence in the States, people know about him."

 



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